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Title: Both cards at showdown- show one show all/both
Post by: Admin on July 15, 2007, 10:51:30 AM
At showdown a player must show both cards in order to contend for the pot.  For instance, if the "board" contains 4 of a suit and a player shows only the ace of that suit that is not yet a winning hand. 
UNTIL both cards in the players hand are revealed, the hand is not yet live and shouldnt be read as such by the dealer.

After the showdown, If a player intentionally shows his hand to any other player, the remaining players have the right to see the hand if they desire, and should ask the dealer to expose said hand.  ( a dealer will not automatically expose a hand in this situation).

If any player shows a single card in his hand, they are obligated to expose the remaining card(s) in their hand. 
An example: A player makes a bet, which no-one calls.  They win the pot and in the course of folding show the table one card...if asked, the player must expose the second card (or the dealer will)

Title: Re: Both cards at showdown- show one show all/both
Post by: that_pope on November 12, 2007, 09:39:04 AM
I really hate this rule, but what can I do.  Being able to show one card (not to win the pot, but once everyone else has folded) is something that should be allowed.  So he shows a 2 of diamonds, that just helps you narrow what his other card is that much more...oh well.
Title: Re: Both cards at showdown- show one show all/both
Post by: Aack Thbbbt on November 12, 2007, 12:24:14 PM
The only time you MUST show both is only if there is a showdown.

You MIGHT have to show both( or the second card) , if for instance you bet, and no one calls, you can show one card. BUT, if someone asks to see the other card you (or the dealer) are obligated to show it. The dealer will never, (or should never) expose the second card if no one asks.


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So he shows a 2 of diamonds, that just helps you narrow what his other card is that much more...oh well.

Yes, but if he shows one, being able to ask to see the other one REALLY helps narrow down the second card : )
Title: Re: Both cards at showdown- show one show all/both
Post by: CrazyLond on November 15, 2007, 06:33:22 PM
Two of those rules are in place everywhere.  Two cards must always be shown to scoop a pot in a showdown.  Also, it is standard to have to show the rest of the table your cards if you expose them to one or two people.  However, that third rule is CAZ specific.  Most places will allow a player to show one card for an uncalled bet.  The "show one, show all" term came from the first rule, having to show all players if you show one of them.

We had a no limit cash game going at sea while I was in the Navy and one guy thought "show one show all" meant showing both cards if you expose one...not only that, but he actually flipped over the player's other card.  He almost got beaten up and thrown out of the game but he was such a donater, we let it slide.

When I first found out this rule at CAZ, I developed a technique for throwing cards into the muck and having one "accidentally" turn over.  I stopped doing this as I figured it was an abuse of the policy and besides, I rarely have a desire to show a hand or part of a hand that isn't called.  Their house, their rules, I suppose.